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In this continuation from episode 12, Carmen & Lucky take on the meaning of happiness and the pitfalls that keep us from it. We discuss giving love, anal probes, DMT, the FDA, Retin-A, Tiajuana dreamin', Starwood Festival, and Carmen's E.coli. conspiracy!

*If you're a fan of the movie "The Fourth Kind" then check out our conversation on DMT, and also read "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" by Rick Strassman.*

spirit molecule (art by Alex Grey)

Fourth Kind owl

DMT the Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman (art by Alex Grey)

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